Posts by Burger Time

In some cases, the amount of material copied is so small (or "de minimis") that the court permits it without even conducting a fair use analysis. For example, in the motion picture Seven, several copyrighted photographs appeared in the film, prompting the copyright owner of the photographs to sue the producer of the movie. The court held that the photos "appear fleetingly and are obscured, severely out of focus, and virtually unidentifiable." The court excused the use of the photographs as "de minimis" and a fair use analysis was not required. ( Sandoval v. New Line Cinema Corp., 147 F.3d 215 (2d Cir. 1998).) As with fair use, there is no bright line test for determining a de minimis use. For example, in another case, a court determined that the use of a copyrighted poster for a total of 27 seconds in the background of the TV show, "Roc" was not de minimis. What distinguished the use of the poster from the use of the photographs in the Seven case? The court stated that the poster was clearly visible and recognizable with sufficient observable detail for the "average lay observer " to view the artist's imagery and colorful style. ( Ringgold v. Black Entertainment Television, Inc. 126 F.3d 70 (2d Cir. 1997).)

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How to get WT Comments videos back up (with Knocking section)

by Burger Time in

jw
friends

ok i think the best way to go about this is make this a david vs goliath issue.

we should email every news outlet/online outlet we can think of.

attach a copy of the email sent and make some bad publicity for pbs.

Burger Time

Obviously V has this under control but for simple debate, I am not sure this would fall under fair use simply because of how it is edited in. It's not edited making fun of the movie or for some educational purpose. It's just there because it adds to the theme of the youtube video. For this reason it might be hard to make the fair use argument.

As far as video on cell phones go, you would have to copyright the material and ask anyone in the video for permission to use. If you are in a video and it is publicly posted you can take legal action to have it removed if you never gave permission and you can prove it was filmed unknown to you (not sure but I seem to remember a news item about youtube video a girl did not want posted)....unless your in a government owned public place. Even then if they are making money off of it they must ask your permission. If you are however not making money on it and doing something like a public service announcement (think baldwin brother putting up billboards with people walking in to a XXX store) you do not have to have permission to use footage.

I am pretty sure this is how it works anyways. Most common people have neither the time or money to fight the image...besides the fame is good sometimes. AS far as just walking in to a Kingdom Hall and filming someone raise or lower there hand it might not be a good idea. A better thought might be to bring a friend and just film them doing this then leave.

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How to get WT Comments videos back up (with Knocking section)

by Burger Time in

jw
friends

ok i think the best way to go about this is make this a david vs goliath issue.

we should email every news outlet/online outlet we can think of.

attach a copy of the email sent and make some bad publicity for pbs.

Burger Time

Yea looks like it might be easier to just replace the Youtube videos and deal with the traffic issues.

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March BOE Financial Letter?

by yknot in

i received an email from a sister-undercover -apostate saying someone had posted on her anti-jw group that there was a boe dated march 1, 2008 about local kh financial accounts and the wts.. my fading doesn't always let me log-on much and i couldn't find anything under "boe letter" with last month search tool.

has this been discussed?

i stopped by the kh today and checked the board and we had nothing posted (not really expecting to see it posted either).. here is the cut/paste of her email to me:.

Burger Time

Yep old news...search first/post later

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How to get WT Comments videos back up (with Knocking section)

by Burger Time in

jw
friends

ok i think the best way to go about this is make this a david vs goliath issue.

we should email every news outlet/online outlet we can think of.

attach a copy of the email sent and make some bad publicity for pbs.

Burger Time

Got a reply back last night......

Here is a message we sent to the producer who used our footage in his YouTube videos:

We prefer that you not use any footage from KNOCKING in your videos. This is our policy for anyone who uses our footage without permission. We have sent "cease and desist" letters to both JWs and non-JWs alike. The principle is about protecting the work of independent filmmakers and public television, which has to survive in a commercial media landscape overpowered by corporate giants. We hope you understand. We also hope you will respect our hard work and not take pieces of it to illustrate your own videos. Our footage was shot at great effort and expense. Whether you like KNOCKING or not, it should be respected as one attempt among hopefully many to tell the complex story of Jehovah's Witnesses. Rather than take our footage, we encourage you and others to shoot your own footage and tell your own stories. The more documentaries that exist on a given subject the better. This is what makes outlets like YouTube so great. Anyone can be a filmmaker. Just please use your own work. The KNOCKING footage is copyright protected and we will ask YouTube to remove it if it continues to be posted.

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How to get WT Comments videos back up (with Knocking section)

by Burger Time in

jw
friends

ok i think the best way to go about this is make this a david vs goliath issue.

we should email every news outlet/online outlet we can think of.

attach a copy of the email sent and make some bad publicity for pbs.

Burger Time

I think the biggest issue is just the inconvenience of having to re do everything on the traffic side of this. Obviously if no one was visiting it wouldn't be a big deal to just edit and make a new video. As far as the fair use I was thinking that could be an avenue too....I don't think there is a statute for asking, just depends on the producers mood at the time ya know?

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Elders Must Testify; Attorneys to Appeal

by Kenneson in

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friends

sorry if this has been posted before, but i just came across it.. "jehovah's witnesses elders must tesfify in murrieta molestation case, judge rules".

http://www.pe.com/localnews/rivcounty/stories/pe_news_local_h_faith26.4193557.html.

Burger Time

If they lied it would be a complete debacle. Again if he never admitted he did it then why would the Defense Attorney not turn that to his advantage?

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How to get WT Comments videos back up (with Knocking section)

by Burger Time in

jw
friends

ok i think the best way to go about this is make this a david vs goliath issue.

we should email every news outlet/online outlet we can think of.

attach a copy of the email sent and make some bad publicity for pbs.

Burger Time

Yea Nathen and Layla that would be the easiest. I think the issue is that editing the clip would require new addresses, new linking, time editing the clip etc.. Granted it would be much easier and convenient to all parties involved to do it this way. I was just giving an idea on doing it with out having to edit and change things.

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Should you leave your cell phone on in church?

by Undecided in

god may want to talk to you and ring your phone to answer your questions.

can he talk to more than one person at a time?

he can kill more than one at a time anyway.. ken p..

Burger Time

I'm sure people said the same things about atuombiles and noise levels when they first came out.